Auf dem Weg zur demokratischen Bürgergemeinde ..... Jh. "Laws" (nomoi) were passed by a special board of "legislators" (nomothetai) and meant to demarcate areas of just and unjust conduct, and with "permanent and general application" (online Brill's New Pauly s.v. (unter der Herrschaft des Attalos III. Aeschines lost that case and left public life. [8], https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Against_Timarchus&oldid=948554729, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 1 April 2020, at 17:53. Does that apply to our times as much as to any other time or place? Because a law-court speech, one intended to persuade a jury representing a cross-section of Athenians, Aeschines' Against Timarchus is generally regarded as evidence for classical Athenian attitudes to matters it treats. Failed to do one's duty in military service. So this forms part of a jury trial, with prosecutor (Aeschines) and defendent (Timarchus â but it seems that Demosthenes spoke in Timarchus' behalf⦠Aischines föddes i Aten omkring år 390 f.Kr. Get this from a library! Print. Senate. 8? Vlber die von ⦠psephi sma). Bekker, Immanuel. Aeschines: Against Timarchos Introduction, translation, and commentary by Nick Fisher. Is an active pederast like Aeschines gay by
To hire out one's citizen son or legal ward for sex, or pay such a boy for sex. between each of the disqualifications described in the. (Macedonia was a kingdom threatening Greek city-states to its south.) 18) ist die Quellenlage außerordentlich gut. Aischines konnte diesen ProzeB aber furs erste durch eine gegen Timarchos erhobene Gegenklage St LpCap g, wegen Prosti-tution, verhindern. Buy Access; Help; About; Contact Us; Cookies; Encyclopedias | Text editions Timarchus? [7] Aeschines won the case and Timarchus was punished by disenfranchisement. Aeschines' successful prosecution against Timarchos of 346/5 BC is our best evidence for Athenian laws and moral attitudes concerning homosexuality, and for Athenians' moral expectations of their politicians. or. Page 37 - Unkeuschheit zu, wohl aber gegen den, der ihn verdungen hat und den, 4» der sich ihn gedungen hat, gegen den einen, weil er ihn verdungen, und gegen den andern, weil er, so sagt er, sich ihn gedungen hat. (See especially dokimasia rhetoron, below.) Timbo vom Kirschental, was a herding dog, certified Therapy Dog. An icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. It had judicial functions but almost no political ones. Note that in ancient Athenian court trials, procedure consisted mostly of speeches delivered by plaintiff, defendant, and, at times, their supporters. "Laying Down the Law: The Oversight of Men's Sexual Behavior in Classical Athens." sowie Hansen 1995, 28f. Die von Aischines gegen Timarchos gehaltene Gerichtsrede 28 zeigt detailliert, wie schmal und zum Teil ebenfalls willkürlich die Grenzen zwischen Päderastie und Prostitution waren. Note that in your text, laws, depositions, and similar, indicated by squre brackets, are later additions; they were not part of Aeschines' published text of the speech. To enter public life after having hired himself out for sex. See OLD s.v. disqualifying him from speaking in the assembly. ; zu Kritias s. Németh 2006, 25â39. 2, Oberlieferung 343ff - Textgestaltung 345ff - Autor-schaft 350ff Aristoteles, Poetik, Begriff der gid-tot; und KaOapotc 279ff Asinius Pollio, Adressat von Verg. Against Timarchus (Greek: ÎαÏá½° ΤιμάÏÏοÏ
) was a speech by Aeschines accusing Timarchus of being unfit to involve himself in public life. Purchase a copy of this text (not necessarily the same edition) from Amazon.com Aeschines replied in a speech with the same title and was again acquitted. This banner text can have markup.. web; books; video; audio; software; images; Toggle navigation or. zitiert habe, "etwa wie Aischines solche gegen Timarchos citiert", d.h. die oben zu auTy Ty Tip?pxy ? [Aischines; Gustav Eduard Benseler] A Greek nobleman, possibly from Miletus in Asia Minor, Timarchus was a friend of the Seleucid prince Antiochus IV Epiphanes during his time as a hostage to the Roman Republic. They were not paid, however. or. Aeschines, a member of the pro-Macedonian faction at Athens, faced prosecution by a team of anti-Macedonians including the statesman and orator Demosthenes. Aischines, Rede gegen Timarchos, Datierung 383ff Alexandria, Grundungslegende 291ff. Why does Aeschines even have to go into his own autobiography? status) ; Fisher, N. -Aeschines Against Timarchos. b to devote oneself (to an occupation). In 339 BC, as one of the Athenian deputies (pylagorae) in the Amphictyonic Council, he made a speech which brought about the Fourth Sacred War. The Constraints of Desire: The Anthropology of Sex and Gender in Ancient Greece. Aeschines Rede gegen Timarchos : Griechisch und Deutsch. The procedure is an "examination as to fitness to participate in public life," the dokimasia rhetoron. Print. Though much discussed in recent years, the speech has never received a proper commentary. Cambridge, Mass., 1989. Dass offenbar regelmäßige Überprüfungen der Anspruchsberechtigung durchgeführt wurden, erfahren wir aus einer Gerichtsrede (Aischines, Gegen Timarchos 104), wo berichtet wird, dass ein erblindeter alter Mann namens Arignotos seine Invalidenrente verlor, weil er bei einer solchen Überprüfung gefehlt hatte. or. As regards the sexual side, what the dokimasia addressed was not being or having been a prostitute; it was being a prostitute or former prostitute yet still exercising full male-citizen rights. auch Fisher 2001, 319f. Auch Aischines verleiht dem Ausdruck, wenn er die Lasterhaftigkeit des Timarchos als eine Folgekette schildert, die "zuerst von den eigenen körperlichen Gaben, dann denen der Vorfahren und schließlich von der Stadt selbst zehrten" (294). Whatever those connections/relationships, they may offer a window into classical Athenian sexual ideology. 2, Dem. ⦠subordinate one's actions (to any interest, demand etc.). 18) ist die Quellenlage außerordentlich gut. Aischines gelang es in einer Gegenklage mit der Rede Gegen Timarchos (1), die Richter davon zu überzeugen, dass sich dieser in seiner Jugend prostituiert hatte. The Annenberg CPB/Project provided support for entering this text. Sohn des Atrometos, Nach einer Tätigkeit als Redenschreiber und Schauspieler berühmter Redner und seit 346 Gegner des Demosthenes. b to act as though bound Oxford 2001 : 45. or. Efter att som ung ha biträtt sin far vid undervisningen i en oansenlig skola ledd av denne, sökte han sig till teatern och uppträdde mot betalning som skådespelare, men efter en tid lämnade han teatern och började i stället som skrivare, först hos den ansedde statsmannen och ⦠The dokimasia rhetoron, in Greek, "scrutiny of public speakers," was a legal process (a jury trial) in classical-democratic Athens, whereby a citizen's fitness to address the assembly could be challenged. The case was brought about in 346/5, in response to Timarchus, along with Demosthenes, bringing a suit against Aeschines, accusing him of misconduct as an ambassador to Philip II of Macedon. The case was brought about in 346/5, in response to Timarchus, along with Demosthenes, bringing a suit against Aeschines, accusing him of misconduct as an ambassador to Philip II of Macedon. Did they
The text of a statute can be presented to contrast the illegality of a proposed decree just as Aeschines did in 3 (Against Ktesiphon) 32-35, to ⦠constructionism", Speaker-writer-prosecutor: Aeschines son of Atrometus, 390/89-314 BCE, Athenian statesman and former actor, Defendant: one Timarchus son of Arizelus, evidently, an Athenian of some prominence, Outcome: Aeschines won. The procedure is an "examination as to fitness to participate
Die Scholien zu des Aeschines Reden gegen den Timarchos und über die Gesandtschaft, berichtigt und vervollständigt Ihr Browser zeigt an, ob sie diesen Verweis schon einmal besucht haben. frg. Why or why not? Zu Aischinesâ Klage gegen Timarchos s. Harris 1995, 101â106; zur zitierten Textstelle vgl. Für die Verfahren gegen Timarchos (Aeschin. page: Note the general structure of the speech: exploration of the legal-moral dimension; a detailed and lurid account of Timarchus' supposedly infamous behavior; thorough exploration of the political and pederastic implications of it all, including a look at poetry and mythology; some pertinent autobiography from the speaker; arguments and counter arguments. Es steht ja nicht so, daß Homosexualität in allen Formen in Griechenland straffrei gewesen wäre; da kann man sich bei Aischines im Falle Athens eines Besseren belehren lassen. By way of revenge, Aeschines endeavoured ⦠The speech has spawned considerable bibliography and remains a conerstone of the study of (male) sexuality in classical Greece. 3 und Dem. Aeschines with an English translation by Charles Darwin Adams, Ph.D. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1919. Contrast the modern court trial: motions, presentation of evidence, examination of witnesses, minimal speechifying. [2] Along with the accusations of prostitution and squandering his inheritance for which Timarchus was on trial, the speech contains charges of "bribery, sycophancy, the buying of office, embezzlment, and perjury". 157). This is the first commentary in any language on Aeschines' Against Timarchos, the prosecution speech in the politically crucial trial of 346/5BC.The case was that Timarchos was forbidden to hold public office and disenfranchised because he had engaged in improper homosexual relationships in the past and had wasted his inheritance on debauchery. Aeschines with an English translation by Charles Darwin Adams, Ph.D. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1919. focus disapproval on the. Die Hauptquelle für die Steuer ist eine Gerichtsrede des Aischines gegen Timarchos, in der Aischines das Gericht davon zu überzeugen versucht, dass Timarchos ⦠What is Timarchus' "sexuality" alleged to be — if we can
88-112. One Hundred Years of Homosexuality And Other Essays on Greek Love. ^ angef?hrten (? New York and London: Routledge, 1990. Does this speech tend to confirm or challenge Foucault's / Halperin's
"Decrees" (psēphismata) at this time (345 BCE) were assembly resolutions often of limited scope or for a specific issue. 45-70. http://perseus.uchicago.edu/perseus-cgi/citequery3.pl?dbname=GreekFeb2011&getid=1&query=Aeschin.%201, "functional
Gegen die Datierung auf das Jahr Alpha des Attalos II. He had an outstanding temperament, and absolutely loved everyone. What is problematic about conduct or patterns associated with
Politeia 49,4. [1] The speech provides evidence of a number of actions which, according to Aeschines, would cause a citizen to lose the right of addressing the Assembly. 7 October (2013). Offices like generalships, they involved important decision-making functions. Es steht ja nicht so, daß Homosexualität in allen Formen in Griechenland straffrei gewesen wäre; da kann man sich bei Aischines im Falle Athens eines ⦠So this forms part of a jury trial, with prosecutor (Aeschines) and defendent (Timarchus — but it seems that Demosthenes spoke in Timarchus' behalf) delivering one (lengthy) speech each. Timarchos wird vorgeworfen, sich in jungen Jahren prostituiert zu haben. modern standards? Die erste Rede des Aischines ist ein besonders wichtiges Dokument zur gleichgeschlechtlichen Liebe unter Männern. 1), mehr noch durch die erhaltenen Reden und Gegenreden für den Gesandtschaftsprozeß (Aeschin. 1997, 563 und ⦠Aeschines. Diese Rede enthält sehr interessante Informationen über die Halbwelt des alten Athen. The present speech was delivered in 345 BCE at Athens. very important concepts, also discussed on the terms
Would you agree/disagree with the notion that there is a connection between sexual, financial, and political patterns of behavior, as Aeschines (author of the speech) would seem to want us to think? That's the translators way of rendering what we usually call the "Council of 500" (boulē), a democratic body (membership representative but election was by lottery — basically, random). Die Hauptquelle für die Steuer ist eine Gerichtsrede des Aischines gegen Timarchos, in der Aischines das Gericht davon zu überzeugen versucht, dass Timarchos sich in seiner Jugend prostituierte. As for prostitition itself, while it was OK in classical Athens for non-citizens or slaves to be so employed, it was not OK for a citizen male: While the case has to do with conduct specifically dealt with by the dokimasia, there is related legislation mentioned in Aeschines' text to sketch out the moral-legal framework, for instance, laws to protect boys from predatory teachers, laws to protect freeborn boys from being prostituted, against "outrageous acts" against boys, and other measures (not the dokimasia) having to do with political disqualifications entailed by one's having been a prostitute. An icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Anthologia Latina Sh. 3 und Dem. Would conduct like that have come across as "gay" in
DicÈionar dexonline. This is the first commentary in any language on Aeschines' Against Timarchos, the prosecution speech in the politically crucial trial of 346/5BC.The case was that Timarchos was forbidden to hold public office and disenfranchised because he had engaged in improper homosexual relationships in the past and had ⦠even think or speak in terms of sexuality in relation to this speech? Die von Aischines gegen Timarchos gehaltene Gerichtsrede 28 zeigt detailliert, wie schmal und zum Teil ebenfalls willkürlich die Grenzen zwischen Päderastie und Prostitution waren. Für den speziellen Fall der Homosexualität bin ich dem einmal nachgegangen und habe bei Aischines (Gegen Timarchos) über weibliche Homosexualität gefunden: nichts. Für den speziellen Fall der Homosexualität bin ich dem einmal nachgegangen und habe bei Aischines (Gegen Timarchos) über weibliche Homosexualität gefunden: nichts. New York: Routledge, 1990. Non-elective offices. Against Timarchus (Greek: Κατὰ Τιμάρχου) was a speech by Aeschines accusing Timarchus of being unfit to involve himself in public life. Clarendon Ancient History Series. Timo Weisschnur als Kampfpilot Lars Koch in "Terror" von Ferdinand von Schirach. Purchase a copy of this text ⦠Pornikon telos (griechisch ΠοÏνικὸν ÏÎλοÏ) war im antiken Athen eine Steuer, die von Prostituierten beiderlei Geschlechts für ihre Dienstleistung geleistet werden musste.. servio 3 : To put one's self at the service of, labour for (countries, individuals, etc.) Later, Aeschines would try another supporter of Demosthenes. or. Senate of the Areopagus. The (rather large) jury would then vote. or. Unlike Plato, whose views were highly distinctive and not necessarily shared by his fellow Athenians, Aeschines was appealing directly to the members of an Athenian jury, and so it ⦠in public life," the dokimasia rhetoron. Aeschines Rede gegen Timarchos : Griechisch und Deutsch Antiphontis orationes et fragmenta, adjunctis Gorgiae, Autisthenis, Alcidamantis quae feruntur declamationes. [5] Indeed, Hubbard observes that he does not even manage to produce a single witness who will testify that Timarchus had any sexual relationship with the men in question at all,[6] though in his speeches Aeschines says that Timarchus' affairs were well known to the jury. Für die Verfahren gegen Timarchos (Aeschin. Aeschines won acquittal, though just barely. Aeschines. Aeschines alleges that the defendant, Timarchus, has in the past engaged in a practice, self-prostitution, disqualifying him from speaking in the assembly. Aeschines. Our principal source for this procedure and the underlying ideologies is Aeschines' Against Timarchus. or. Das heißt, dass er vor allem den passiven Teil in Beziehungen spielte. Dass offenbar regelmäßige Überprüfungen der Anspruchsberechtigung durchgeführt wurden, erfahren wir aus einer Gerichtsrede (Aischines, Gegen Timarchos 104), wo berichtet wird, dass ein erblindeter alter Mann namens Arignotos seine Invalidenrente verlor, weil er bei einer solchen Überprüfung gefehlt hatte. Perseus under Philologic. Majority vote decided the verdict. Alexandre Mitchell untersucht die möglichen Hintergründe von grotesken, vormals von Ärzten als Fehlbildung fehlgedeuteten figürlichen Darstellungen aus der Zeit des Hellenismus (S. 182â196). As a result, Timarchus suffered, The connection, if any (but the speech seems to suggest there must have been one) between classical Athenian, The relationship (if any!) 1), mehr noch durch die erhaltenen Reden und Gegenreden für den Gesandtschaftsprozeß (Aeschin. Diese Rede enthält sehr interessante Informationen über die Halbwelt des alten Athen. Aischines gelang es in einer Gegenklage mit der Rede Gegen Timarchos (1), die Richter davon zu überzeugen, dass sich dieser in seiner Jugend prostituiert hatte. Athen, Wiederherstellung der Demokratie ⦠the defendant, Timarchus, has in the past engaged in a practice, self-prostitution,
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